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Re: This is SON [SOTN]

by Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAMc@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 06:03 PM

Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 found these unused words:

>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:46:06 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
><jaSPAMc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 found these unused words:
>>
>>>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:52:21 +0800, "rodney"
>>><pookiethai@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>
>>>>> Still a little bit crooked.  Slanted a little.  Need a better,
>>>>> straighter example.
>>>>> --- :^P
>>>>
>>>>Surely some points off for too much oil in the cancelling ink,
>>>>causing ink bleed, a common blight amongst commonwealth
>>>>countries. ---:^P
>>>
>>>Absolutely.  Sometimes they look like they've been burnt into the
>>>stamp.  Maybe that was the first true reference to "going postal", a
>>>postal clerk taking his / her frustration out on a £1 or £5 Vickie.
>>
>>A reading of the GPO's instructions to postmasters shows that the device
>>used was called an 'obliterator'. It was designed and intended to
obliterate
>>the stamp! As evidence the GB "1844" type cancels with heavy bars
framing
>>the PO's ID numeral. Lighter CDS and other cancels came into being after
the
>>officialdom lost its fear of having a stamp cleaned and used - well at
least
>>most of it! <G>
>
>That's why it's called a Killer Cancel.  Hey, this leads to more
>discussion about "going postal".  Maybe there's a postal history or
>philatelic reference from the 1800s?

About the term, probably not, but about the obliterators ... I've quite a
bit.

>>I'd offer the grilled issue of the US as another indication of the PO's
>>intention to 'destroy' the stamp against possible re-use.
>
>OK...  the only time when one would have a problem is if one would
>scrub the stamp.  Simple soaking has not done too much harm to those
>stamps I've worked on, albeit a small number.

However, ther fibres of the stamps were pierced (GB thought of using a
'canceller' that would pierce while ON the letter!) and to some early
writes, those stamps were 'damaged'!

>>>I reviewed said comments from previous posts and found that Sir Rien
>>>is "almost" right, considering the number of people who have stated
>>>that the cancel should be socked on the stamp, but doesn't have to
>>>square up to perfection.  It would be a small collection indeed if
>>>that requirement were in effect.
>>
>>It would be a very 'difficult' collection, but by no means 'small'.
>
>If they were truly centered on a stamp, with the millimeters checked,
>it would truly be small indeed.

Not so, It would be on the order of perfectly centered stamps with fresh
PO
'colour'.

>>It would be similar to a Penny Black collection ... there's only -=one=-
>>Penny Black, isn't there? <G>
>
>Aha!  But nobody has one EXACTLY like mine!  I still think about the
>people who used to put them up on their walls.  Hmmm...

Every postally used stamp is unique. <G>

The point was though, are there four (shades), 12 (plates),  240
(positions), leading to over 10,000 identifiable items (plates, positions,
shades & known repaired 'states' !) ??? That's for -=mint=- [or used if ou
don't bother with the effect of usage! 

Now add in red/black MX, town & special MX cancels, a few coloured MX
cancels and various postal rates 2d combinations & multiples, plus those
known added to Mulready covers and you've a monster in used.
 




 22 Posts in Topic:
This is SON [SOTN]
Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAM  2008-04-26 09:09:05 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"Terry Reedy" &  2008-04-26 12:29:49 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-26 17:18:45 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAM  2008-04-26 18:10:45 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-27 10:52:21 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 15:58:38 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAM  2008-04-27 13:46:06 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 23:16:02 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAM  2008-04-27 18:03:25 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-28 09:57:28 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-28 10:08:58 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Tracy_Barber@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 02:58:03 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAM  2008-04-28 08:48:31 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-29 08:02:49 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Asia-translation <tony  2008-04-28 00:45:06 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-28 17:07:39 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Asia-translation <tony  2008-04-29 00:36:04 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-29 16:58:13 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Asia-translation <tony  2008-04-30 00:35:40 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-30 16:04:31 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
Joshua McGee <joshuaRE  2008-04-28 13:27:45 
Re: This is SON [SOTN]
"rodney" <po  2008-04-29 07:58:16 

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