Re: Letter Carriers vs Private Contractors

"WitchDr" <Witch**Dr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Curt" <cje@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "WitchDr" <Witch**Dr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> When you say "weenies" do you speak of the Clinton administration?
> >> Because
> >> my experiences with KBR go as far back as 1996 when Clinton sent the
> >> military into Bosnia....but it was only for a year (we're still
there).
> >
> > The generally accepted use of the word "weenies" as of late has been
to
> > refer to the Republican leader****p in general.
> >
> > Clinton didn't break the army. He (with very little help from the
weenies,
> > BTW) built our armed forces into the most magnificent fighting force
the
> > world has ever seen. The dumbya, of course, decided to use a FIGHTING
> > force
> > as an OCCUPYING force..something it was never designed to do. He's
broken
> > a
> > lot of equipment, gotten a lot of service folks killed, and lost (yup,
> > lost.
> > Just plain unaccounted for) billions of dollars worth of gear and just
> > plain
> > cash. No, this isn't Clinton's fault.
>
> Sorry, but half the reason we have such a problem with numbers is
because
of
> the cuts during the 90's and the constant deployments to places like the
> Balkans. Perhaps you've forgotten about all of the warnings during the
90's
> that our force was getting cut too much and deployed for contingencies.
We
> (as in our elected officials) decided to cancel things like the
up-armored
> Hummer because wonderful leaders decided we "didn't need it". We see how
> well that worked out. Bush didn't break the military, it started well
before
> he got in office (and I'm not dumb enough to pin the blame on Clinton
> alone).

Our forces handled the Balkans just fine, thank you. We handled Iraq just
fine, too, even with a few guys still left in the Balkans. (And Germany,
and
Alaska).. The weenies just didn't have a clue how to get out once the
military folks had won the war. So they left our guys in, as an Occupying
Force. Which isn't something our guys are supposed to be, and it's not
something we're geared for. Which should be a good thing.

If we weren't trying to act as an Occupying Force -- if the weenies had
figured out A)what we were supposed to be doing there in the first place
or
B)how we could tell when we'd done it, we wouldn't need the up armored
Humvees, for example. We'd be driving tanks where there was a war, and
Humvees where we'd won.

>
>
> >> > We'd be better off firing them and taking their weapons away, and
> > letting
> >> > the army do army stuff. It'd be cheaper and it'd work better.
> >>
> >> I doubt it'd be cheaper. If you got rid of KBR and others, you'd have
to
> >> have a really big Army with sup****t personnel that could supply the
> > military
> >> with the myriad of services they need.  The nice thing about
contractors
> > is
> >> that when the contingency is done, we're done paying for all of the
> > sup****t.
> >> If the military did it organically, you'd have to continue to pay
those
> >> sup****t soldiers (and their retirements). Plus with contractors, a
lot
of
> >> the sup****t personnel are locals and paid a much lower wage.
> >
> > Then what's with these $80k Halliburton truck drivers?
>
> The cooks and others aren't getting $80k.

Okay. You could be right -- I've never investigated what a Halliburton
cook
makes. I wonder if it's more than an Army cook?

But the fact is, there are plenty of Iraqis that drive trucks. And
Halliburton's im****ting truckers from the States.

Curt