Thats one reason I seldom use this forum as a place to gain any insight.
Too many "know-it-alls" and not enough people with any real knowledge. I
find most of what I need to know elsewhere. Ther ARE some here that
actually are respectful, but they seldom post. Too bad.
B
"Numismidiot" <numismidiot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Yes....sounds like it WAS off the "top of your cabeza". Real thought
and
> insight comes from the inside. I didn't ask for insight...I asked for
> value of FOREIGN coins. I know you are one of the GURUs in here and
there
> are a bunch of pathetic followers who will back up the mindless,
snobbish
> drivel you pass off as insight, but if your goal is to really answer the
> questions people ask, I suggest you try something simple.....answer
them.
> Don't bore them with your *****sment of their intentions. I was looking
> sor something simple like...."Many world coins are not known for being
> high in value....you may find some help at suchandsuch.com." Instead I
> got this drippy "socks-and-sandals" *****sment of my "reasons" for
> collecting coins. I have news for you pal, if you do a search on
> numismatics, over 90% of the sights that come up are in refernce to
value,
> selling, buying, and relted topics like grading. If you search any
> specific coin, you will find several times more ebay listings than you
> will "people drooling over the history and geography represented by the
> coin". Wake up. I am not alone. Next time you are in a restaurant and
> order an omelette, let's see how grateful you are when the waitress
> (sorry...waitperson) brings you a salad along with a dissertation on the
> effects of cholesterol and tells you what you should be getting out of
> food and what criteria you should be using to decide what to order.
Some
> people order for health, some for taste, some for budget....whatever
> reason they wish. Maybe you will thank her by leaving her a foreign
coin!
> To save you the effort of blowing a whole in my analogy, I fully
> acknowledge that the waitress is being paid and you are giving your
advice
> for free. I will just add that it was worth every penny.
>
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
> news:g122d801cki@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Numismidiot" <numismidiot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:48348515$0$30503$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Seems I've struck a nerve among some purists in the group.
>>>
>>> First, I meant no offense by calling them "Foreign Coins". As all
seem
>>> to speak English here, I momentarily lost sight of the fact that this
>>> forum, as well as the Internet as a whole, is worldwide. *my bad* I
>>> simply referred to them as foreign coins because, among the coins I
>>> inherited, there was a box labeled "Foreign Coins" for which I hope
you
>>> all will forgive me and my deceased mother who labeled the box as
such.
>>> I am now painfully reminded that the curse of political correctness
has
>>> permeated nearly every nook and cranny of modern life and this group
is
>>> no exception. Despite the fact that I used an incorrect term, all of
you
>>> seemed to know to what I was referring and some of you chose to attack
>>> and judge my terminology and intentions rather than to provide the
>>> information I was seeking, which brings me to the next point...
>>>
>>> A couple of you seemed to suggest that I was collecting coins for the
>>> "wrong reason" and proceeded to tell me "why" I should be collecting
>>> them. It would surprise me to find that this is the intention of this
>>> forum. I thought it was primarily for the exchange of information
about
>>> collectible coins. We all know that regardless of the love one may,
or
>>> may not, have for coins, that their value is a huge issue and if you
>>> look (I just did) you will find that MOST of the posts in this group
>>> relate directly or indirectly to that value. I have seen several
>>> comparisons (espcially on the topic of grading) in this group as well
as
>>> in Internet articles, of coin collecting to classic car collecting. I
>>> will borrow the analogy to make a point. Is a car collector who
>>> specializes in American muscle cars from the sixties, collecting for
the
>>> "wrong reason" if he (or she) inherits a 1966 Austin Healy 3000 and
>>> seeks information so he can sell it for top dollar to use the money
to
>>> buy a '68 Road Runner? ...Or to take a vacation in the Bahamas for
that
>>> matter?
>>>
>>> All that being said, and not that it is really anyone's business, I
will
>>> tell you what my true unvarnished thoughts, intentions and goals are.
I
>>> inherited some coins from my mother. I used to sit with her when she
>>> sorted them and help her staple them into her 2x2's. I have fond
>>> memories of of the stack of blue Whitman folders. In my 50s, I still
>>> remember conversations with her, as a 10-year-old, about why the spot
in
>>> the Lincoln Cents Number One folder had an empty spot where the 1909 S
>>> VBD should be. I remember her putting on her Gold bracelet from which
>>> dangled a bezel holding a 1897 $10 gold piece every time she went to
>>> meeting of the local numismatic club of which she was the secretary.
I
>>> inherited these coins from her. My original intention was to dump
them
>>> all for cash and spend it on computer and photo equipment whch have
been
>>> my passions for most of my adult life. Something interesting happened
as
>>> I began the necessary rsearch to do this. This flood of memories
coupled
>>> with a now adult perspective of these coins has me teetering on the
>>> prospect of maintaining ****tions of this collection and possibly even
>>> investing further. So, for those of you who criticize "why" I am
>>> collecting, if this does not qualify as a noble reason, I am sorry but
>>> it is all that I have.
>>>
>>> One more piece of unvarnished candor. World Coins.....more
specifically
>>> "non-US World Coins"...Some are beautiful, but I think MOST of them
are
>>> ugly and cheap looking. They remind me of play money and lack the
heft,
>>> luster and look of quality and value that US coins have and from the
>>> values that most of them seem to carry, it seems that most
"collectors"
>>> agree with me. I have told you the "reason" I collect US Coins. My
>>> query was in reference to World Coins. Why do I collect THEM? I
DON'T.
>>> I think that most of them insult my US coins be being in the same
>>> collection and I cannot wait to get rid of them. If that offends
>>> anyone...sorry. They are crap in my book Once again borrowing the
>>> classic car analogy...If collecting US coins were to be compared to
>>> collecting Corvettes....World Coins would be equivalent to collecting
>>> Yugos. Some people can't run with the big boys but just refuse to
stay
>>> home. These are my true thoughts whether anyone likes it or not.
>>>
>>> To those of you that have "lectured" me on "collecting coins for the
>>> "wrong reason", maybe you should *****s if you are participating in
this
>>> forum for the "wrong reason". Are you here to exchange information
>>> about coins or are you here to judge and/or provide sarcastic remarks
to
>>> people who are seeking help? Are you here as political correctness
>>> police? I asked a question about coins. I have thus far received 5
>>> replies and most of them addressed "why I should be colecting coins"
and
>>> not the question I asked. Only TWO of them were informational (Bruce -
>>> Oly) and my thanks to Bruce Remick for his reply and for exhibiting
the
>>> maturity and helpful attitude that I have grown to expect from Usenet
>>> forums. Oly...concise and funny...thanks. You confirmed my suspicions.
>>>
>>> I have received some very good information from this group and despite
>>> my VERY limited newbie knowledge, have done my best to even share a
>>> couple thing I have found. I personally don't care WHY any of you are
>>> collecting coins and for the record, I am a bit envious of those of
you
>>> that have the deeper perspective of the Geography and History that are
>>> struck into every coin mnted in every country. I just don't have it.
>>> But I do have an appreciation for something deeper than just value.
In
>>> addition to the fond memories they evoke, I appreciate the art and
>>> beauty of the object. Today's technologies of digital macro
photography
>>> coupled with the Internet has given me a close-up look at someting I
>>> have never seen so clearly before. I marveled at my first "full
screen"
>>> look at a high grade St. Gaudens. Again, being an adult I can
>>> appreciate this more now than when I was 10.
>>>
>>> Oly...if you have about 200 aluminum cans, I will trade you my "world
>>> coins" for them. (I might even throw in a couple bucks)
>>
>> Just off the top of my cabeza, I'd say that this tiresome rant shows
>> considerable ingratitude and disdain toward several people here who
were
>> trying to give you helpful insights into the world of collecting.
>>
>> James the Frank
>>
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