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Re: Gas pains..

by "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 5, 2008 at 07:48 AM

John Stone wrote:
> On 7/5/08 3:21 AM, in article HaGbk.652$Ae3.208@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "James Sweet"
> <jamessweet1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> I haven't driven a smart car, however I have a hard time understanding
>> the hype over the Prius. My dad had a Topaz Diesel in 1984 that got 60
>> mpg and wasn't a half bad car, he still raves about how well it drove
>> and would probably still have the thing if it didn't get totalled by a
>> driver who blacked out. VW Golf TDI gets 50 mpg which beats the Prius,
>> and it's cheaper and a lot less complicated.
> 
> Consider the fact that diesel fuel is now pu****ng $5 a gallon, way more
than
> even premium gasoline. Also, the high mileage rating for the Prius is
for
> city driving. Talk to people who own them and know how to extract the
best
> mileage out of them. It's very impressive. Not putting down the TDI, but
I
> doubt it will beat a Prius for overall economy. It's a much heavier,
less
> aerodynamic car. BTW, it doesn't look like VW will be offering diesel in
the
> Golf (rabbit). Looks like you will have to buy a Jetta. They're
> transitioning to their "clean diesel" engine for next year.
> 

Rumor has it that VW has a two-seater in the production pipeline for 
2010 or 2011 that gets somwhere around 150-225 MPG. Its design is 
basically a super-streamlined update of the old messersmidt (sp?) 
car-one front seat and one rear seat. Would US buyers accept such a car? 
  I think they would now, with gas prices doubling every three years.

You'll know that gas prices getting really bad when they build a 
separate bike line on the shoulders of the interstates and people start 
using them.

As for the Prius, It has one feature that I think should be mandatory on 
all new cars-A computer which tells the driver how many miles per gallon 
he is getting based on current driving habits. Most drivers have no clue 
at all how dramatic the difference in gas consumption can be between 55 
MPH and 65 MPH because they have never tried to drive at those speeds 
and pay attention to gas mileage at the same time. I have, on several 
cars over the years and the difference in MPG is rather shocking.


One other thing: Home heating oil and automotive diesel are essentially 
the same thing (the auto diesel has a couple of additives to retard 
shrinkage of rubber and is taxed differently, but is otherwise 
interchangable with the home fuel). If people would actually insulate 
and weather-strip their homes to meet contem****ary energy efficiency 
standards, it would reduce consumption of the stuff by millions and 
millions of gallons annually, and prices would probably go down below 
that of gasoline, as has historically been the case until recently.

This winter, those who haven't done that are probably going to crap in 
their pants when they get the bill for their first heating oil delivery, 
and people are going to spend a lot more time under their electric 
blankets during the upcoming cold season.

Oh, the pain......

-Scott


-Scott
 




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