AWN wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I apprciate your response and detailed clarifications. You asked about
the
> frame composition (as I stated it was chromoly originally). I might
have
> jumped the gun on this one. After re=examining the thick lugged frame,
I
> would hazard to guess Ishwata steel, gas pipe, etc. I took a stab at
the
> chromoly based on the weight on *feel* of the frame.
"Ishwata" is a Japanese tubeset I think. Doubtful that would be used on
a European frameset in the 1970's. Now that I think about it, Columbus
tubing which was used by the European manufacturers is a chromoly set .
.. . but without a label stating its use, it's probably not an alloy
frameset.
I've long beein
> collecting Raleighs and Meiles, etc. and have had many, many chromoly
frames
> to compare against. The head tube has a thick silver band around it
(looks
> like it may have been sprayed with a rattle can) where the typical frame
> 'markers/manufacturing info' is usually stamped. Someone on OldRoads
seem
> to think that the Juventus line was produced by Bianchi.
In the era we're discussing, there wasn't much "contract" building by a
manufacturer for another label. I'm not saying it couldn't have
happened, but unlike today where there are relatively few actual makers,
but there are tons of marketed labels, in the 1970's, there were really
tons of makers.
Any thoughts on
> this one? Would a ****mano QR front Ambrosio wheel suggest also another
> 'component change'?
Yes. The ambrosio was a cheap Italian rim.
When did ****mano first develop the QR axle system?
Don't exactly know but remember "San****n" QR hubs (another Japanese
component manufacturer) as early 1973 and presume that ****mano developed
around the same time.
Rick


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