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Re: UACC/PSADNA

by northfield <corvoescuro@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 10:20 PM

On May 14, 11:42=EF=BF=BDam, "AutographPros.com"
<mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(romovethispart)autographpros.com> wrote:
> I remember when I was selling on ebay and had about 10,000 positive
> feedbacks and 59 negatives. =EF=BF=BDI'd get people not doing business
wit=
h me
> because I had 59 negatives. =EF=BF=BDThose people forget that people are
m=
uch more
> apt to complain than to praise in many instances, and I am confident
that'=
s
> the same with PSA/DNA. =EF=BF=BDThey have authenticated what, millions
of
> autographs? =EF=BF=BDI can name 10 incorrect newsworthy mistakes they
made=
, and I'd
> have to imagine there are probably 20 more that are newsworthy but never
> surfaced. =EF=BF=BDPeople have to remember, PSA/DNA is a target because
th=
ey
> excelled above the other authenticators. =EF=BF=BDThey are a target by
oth=
er
> 'self-proclaimed' experts, and they are surely a target by FORGERS!
=EF=BF=
=BDA lot
> of the internet ba****ng that PSA/DNA has taken have been posted by
forgers=
..
> Please note, I'm not referring to any of Mr. Black's posts but I've seen
> countless forger blogs that push these stories making the mountain out
of
> the mole hill. =EF=BF=BDThe forgers don't want a proven method to prove
wh=
at they
> are selling is bad. =EF=BF=BDBy peddling these few stories constantly
and =
jumping on
> every mistake, it allows them to forge and discredit all authenticators.
> Also a lot of these stories are taken out of context. =EF=BF=BDI don't
rec=
all a
> non-profit organization (UACC) and it's Registered Dealer program ever
> meeting and publicly voicing an opinion one way or the other on PSA/DNA.
> That statement makes no sense to me, as no one asked me my opinion and
I'm=
 a
> Registered Dealer.
>
> I'm not one of these guys that bashes my competitors, never have.
=EF=BF=
=BDI sup****t
> them when I see good things and I am also authenticating items so in
direc=
t
> competition with PSA/DNA and could easily come in and join the
bandwagon.
> No where near the scale they are, and I never intend to be. =EF=BF=BDI
jus=
t base my
> judgment on what I've seen. =EF=BF=BDI've probably seen over 5,000 items
> authenticated by PSA/DNA and only a few times did I see items that were
> 'questionable' of these 5,000 items, and again this was just by a quick
> review. =EF=BF=BDI sup****t what James Spence (2 or 3 newsworthy
mistakes?)=
, Rodger
> Epperson, Bob Eaton, PSA/DNA, and GAI are doing, as well as my own work.
> You see, when you see so many in-person autographs, it's very easy to
know=

> the difference from the real and fakes, especially when you know when
the
> item was supposedly signed. =EF=BF=BDIt's like barefootmk pointed out
abou=
t
> Strickler having fake autographs of current films. =EF=BF=BDHis
autographs=
 looked
> nothing like East or West coast examples of this year's signatures.
=EF=BF=
=BDYes
> people's signatures change, but not that significantly, and not when
every=

> single other in-person example looks the same.
>
> Do I disagree with PSA/DNA's work ethics, customer service, and policy
> standards, absolutely. =EF=BF=BDI base this on the fact that they issued
C=
OAs with
> stamped signatures from authenticators that never looked at the items,
and=

> also based on their Better Business Bureau ratings which are horrible.
=EF=
=BF=BDI
> often wonder how many signatures they send back, stating it's outside of
> their expertise. =EF=BF=BDI can assure you I've done this with my
authenti=
cation
> services and refunded the payments. =EF=BF=BDOutside of that, I feel
they =
have done
> great things for the hobby. =EF=BF=BDTheir COA is far above an average
COA=
 in my
> opinion. =EF=BF=BDAnyone notice how many of the big name forgers that
are =
on the
> X-list are now "No Longer A Registered User" on ebay? =EF=BF=BDThis
means =
they are
> kicked off and we all know why. =EF=BF=BDI'd dare say 90% of those large
f=
orgers are
> now off ebay and I believe it was with the help of ebay adding PSA/DNA
to
> it's authentication team. =EF=BF=BDYou may want to try contacting ebay
and=
 ask them
> if PSA/DNA's 'quick opinion' had any help with the removal of these
forger=
s?
> Ask them what happens if a seller gets a few of those failed PSA/DNA
Quick=

> Opinions. =EF=BF=BDIf PSA/DNA got rid of even 1 forger, they did more
for =
the hobby
> than most of us have, and that's a good thing if you ask me.
>
> --
> Michael Kasmarwww.AutographPros.com
> UACC Registered Dealer #237
> Accredited Better Business Member with a lifetime flawless record
>
> "Have you joined our emailer yet? =EF=BF=BDIf not, please do so
immediatel=
y by going
> tohttp://www.autographpros.com/newsletter.php
>
> "Mr Black" <mr_bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:482ab904$0$1026$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> > "barefoot" <barefoo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>news:6aced206-fc56-4db4-9c94-ee0c80a57db4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> probably because a lot of UACC dealers don't pass psa..
> >> plus, those guys from autographworld are "consultants" at james
> >> spence...so that's probably 2 reasons.
> >> m
>
> > third times a charm...
>
> >http://www.smartmoney.com/barrons/index.cfm?story=3D20060303-
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Interesting - you failed to state that you were kicked off eBay
because of PSA/DNA.  Judging others item by sight and innuendo can
lead to serious problems down the road.  It may be advisable to
abstain from that activity, especially when questions are raised about
you.
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 14:47:39 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-13 14:21:45 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 19:51:25 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 19:58:41 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 10:05:49 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 20:01:17 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-14 11:42:01 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 12:57:18 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-14 13:51:50 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Al D." <cri  2008-05-14 22:16:49 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-14 05:54:38 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
northfield <corvoescur  2008-05-19 21:56:05 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
northfield <corvoescur  2008-05-19 22:20:26 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-20 01:57:48 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 08:32:14 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-20 21:48:02 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-20 08:56:34 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
alabamarosethorn@[EMAIL P  2008-05-20 14:58:03 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-20 21:01:13 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
chip1057 <chipf1057@[E  2008-05-14 12:25:33 

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