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Re: UACC/PSADNA

by "AutographPros.com" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (romovethispart)autographpros.com> May 14, 2008 at 11:42 AM

I remember when I was selling on ebay and had about 10,000 positive 
feedbacks and 59 negatives.  I'd get people not doing business with me 
because I had 59 negatives.  Those people forget that people are much more

apt to complain than to praise in many instances, and I am confident
that's 
the same with PSA/DNA.  They have authenticated what, millions of 
autographs?  I can name 10 incorrect newsworthy mistakes they made, and
I'd 
have to imagine there are probably 20 more that are newsworthy but never 
surfaced.  People have to remember, PSA/DNA is a target because they 
excelled above the other authenticators.  They are a target by other 
'self-proclaimed' experts, and they are surely a target by FORGERS!  A lot

of the internet ba****ng that PSA/DNA has taken have been posted by
forgers. 
Please note, I'm not referring to any of Mr. Black's posts but I've seen 
countless forger blogs that push these stories making the mountain out of 
the mole hill.  The forgers don't want a proven method to prove what they 
are selling is bad.  By peddling these few stories constantly and jumping
on 
every mistake, it allows them to forge and discredit all authenticators. 
Also a lot of these stories are taken out of context.  I don't recall a 
non-profit organization (UACC) and it's Registered Dealer program ever 
meeting and publicly voicing an opinion one way or the other on PSA/DNA. 
That statement makes no sense to me, as no one asked me my opinion and I'm
a 
Registered Dealer.

I'm not one of these guys that bashes my competitors, never have.  I
sup****t 
them when I see good things and I am also authenticating items so in
direct 
competition with PSA/DNA and could easily come in and join the bandwagon. 
No where near the scale they are, and I never intend to be.  I just base
my 
judgment on what I've seen.  I've probably seen over 5,000 items 
authenticated by PSA/DNA and only a few times did I see items that were 
'questionable' of these 5,000 items, and again this was just by a quick 
review.  I sup****t what James Spence (2 or 3 newsworthy mistakes?), Rodger

Epperson, Bob Eaton, PSA/DNA, and GAI are doing, as well as my own work. 
You see, when you see so many in-person autographs, it's very easy to know

the difference from the real and fakes, especially when you know when the 
item was supposedly signed.  It's like barefootmk pointed out about 
Strickler having fake autographs of current films.  His autographs looked 
nothing like East or West coast examples of this year's signatures.  Yes 
people's signatures change, but not that significantly, and not when every

single other in-person example looks the same.

Do I disagree with PSA/DNA's work ethics, customer service, and policy 
standards, absolutely.  I base this on the fact that they issued COAs with

stamped signatures from authenticators that never looked at the items, and

also based on their Better Business Bureau ratings which are horrible.  I 
often wonder how many signatures they send back, stating it's outside of 
their expertise.  I can assure you I've done this with my authentication 
services and refunded the payments.  Outside of that, I feel they have
done 
great things for the hobby.  Their COA is far above an average COA in my 
opinion.  Anyone notice how many of the big name forgers that are on the 
X-list are now "No Longer A Registered User" on ebay?  This means they are

kicked off and we all know why.  I'd dare say 90% of those large forgers
are 
now off ebay and I believe it was with the help of ebay adding PSA/DNA to 
it's authentication team.  You may want to try contacting ebay and ask
them 
if PSA/DNA's 'quick opinion' had any help with the removal of these
forgers? 
Ask them what happens if a seller gets a few of those failed PSA/DNA Quick

Opinions.  If PSA/DNA got rid of even 1 forger, they did more for the
hobby 
than most of us have, and that's a good thing if you ask me.

-- 
Michael Kasmar
www.AutographPros.com
UACC Registered Dealer #237
Accredited Better Business Member with a lifetime flawless record


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"Mr Black" <mr_black@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "barefoot" <barefootmk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> probably because a lot of UACC dealers don't pass psa..
>> plus, those guys from autographworld are "consultants" at james
>> spence...so that's probably 2 reasons.
>> m
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> third times a charm...
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> http://www.smartmoney.com/barrons/index.cfm?story=20060303
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 20 Posts in Topic:
UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 14:47:39 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-13 14:21:45 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 19:51:25 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 19:58:41 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 10:05:49 
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"Mr Black" <  2008-05-14 20:01:17 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-14 11:42:01 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 12:57:18 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-14 13:51:50 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Al D." <cri  2008-05-14 22:16:49 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-14 05:54:38 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
northfield <corvoescur  2008-05-19 21:56:05 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
northfield <corvoescur  2008-05-19 22:20:26 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"AutographPros.com&q  2008-05-20 01:57:48 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
Sue H <dahoov2@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 08:32:14 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
"Mr Black" <  2008-05-20 21:48:02 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-20 08:56:34 
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alabamarosethorn@[EMAIL P  2008-05-20 14:58:03 
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barefoot <barefootmk@[  2008-05-20 21:01:13 
Re: UACC/PSADNA
chip1057 <chipf1057@[E  2008-05-14 12:25:33 

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